Ovid and the Gawain Poet

Ovid and the Gawain Poet. I'm reading these two heavy-weights together. Both are, Hugo de Masci. Both are “Bright minded, and expert servants of the craft.” I don't believe Hugo de Masci is a name of the Gawain author. Rather, I think it is, if communicated, a feat of the author being humble, and showing the skill he wields with the pen. As with Ovid, there is mastery of the Greek Mythos. Both crafting stories which are sublime, coherent and easily understood.

There are some artefacts which I draw from Ovid. His obsession with unhealthy romance, illicit sex... and then The Gawain Poet playing with the boundaries of fidelity. It's like both poets are straining against one another. Both are communing with one another. In a cycle of time, where neither ethos was likely to meet the other---it's possible The Gawain Poet read Ovid. But, rather, the response of Chivalry to the romanticism of Ovid's adultery. 

It's important to know that Ovid had been exiled, likely for his stance on adultery. It is also further likely that The Gawain Poet was pushing the boundaries of adultery. Seeing where the line was crossed. Or really, striving for the line. Seeing what boundary would be crossed that would prove fatal.

Ovid's obsession with flirtation and sex is found in his romanticized version of the gods in Roman Religion. It's unclear whether the Romans believed in the gods, but it seems like Ovid is clearly showing the blatant affairs of the gods to poke fun at Augustus's mandate that adultery be illegal. If the gods committed adultery, what reason ought Ovid not?

Then, of course, there is the Chivalry code in Gawain. It plays with adultery---as some of the best poets do---pushing to where the crime is fatal. Is it a kiss? Two kisses? Three kisses? Dishonoring the lord of the house by taking the sash his wife had given, and then not presenting it to him in order to avoid death? Is it in the close and instant chemistry between the lord's wife,---who's more beautiful than Guinevere,---with Gawain? Their conversations, their obvious fatal attraction, the desire they have to be close to the king while in company? What's even more revelatory is that the King is not jealous of this instant attraction between Gawain and his wife. There is a sort of revelation that the whole thing might be contrived by the king---yet, we can rightly say that there is a bond between Gawain and the King's Wife that is chemical, visceral... And Gawain steals six kisses. But, he tells of the kisses to his lord. Obviously the kiss is more important than the sash of immortality.

Ovid, of course, the opposite holds true. gods make frivolous love to maidens, sisters become unhealthily obsessed with their brothers, nymphs almost get raped. It becomes clear that the attitude toward sex reflects that of the Grecian religion. Which is flailing in front of Augustus. Showing him, no proving him that it is counter the will of the idols of Rome. Yet, somehow it prevails that adultery is wrong while Ovid has forgotten this. And there is a conscious reading of Metamorphoses, the almost dreamlike waking up when the crime is about to be committed. Then the dream narration of the poem moves toward the magical Deus Ex Machina of the Nymph being turned into a knoll. Or, in the other case, of the universal law being yielded to, and a brother utterly rejects his sister's love. Ovid is not aware of this---rather, I think he'd almost prefer it if the passions were acted out. Pan chasing Sirynx has that feel of a child chasing his girlhood friend on the playground. The thrill of the chase, and the naughty deed that never happens. 

It's unclear to me what these two opposed systems portray. It's obvious that adultery is celebrated in today's society---I understand it now. It's obvious that the code of Chivalry is dead. Yet, which system would produce the better customs? More inversely, which world was more disdainful of adultery? It seemed like The Gawain Poet pushed the boundaries of the norm---though not readily accepted at his time. And then Ovid was banished. Do the poets always entertain naughty themes? Murder, sex, rape, theft... And why do they? They obviously do for the reason that those naughty things are in us, and we need them purged from us through art.

And what's even more important, is today's society getting offended by stories. Even in Ovid's time, the king tolerated tales of adultery committed by the gods. Ovid wrote of rape. The Gawain Poet wrote on a boundary which would offend many's customs. Yet, today it prevails that adultery is celebrated. Even noble. Why? It doesn't produce happiness. As we've seen. And the story is not tolerated, while the act of adultery is accepted. Pushed into the subconscious, the story is meant to act upon the desire, without really doing so. Yet, when the story is wrong, and the act is right, what can be said? If the story offends the audience because it portrays something taboo, then will not the taboo become active rather than passive? As, the story is a dream. First it brings one to the naughty deed, then it pacifies the naughty dream like it had never happened. Waking up the reader from the dream and the desire. Both satisfying it, and cutting the guilty conscience to allow them to realize “It was only a story.” 

Rightly, that's what the story is meant to do. It's meant to cut us. Even Bible Stories play this role, as I can see no other meaning for the story of the Levite who cuts his concubine into pieces, after she is raped. Though this is a true story, there is something built in us that feeds on the macabre. There is something in us that wants to see entire civilizations destroyed to the last child, and then to wake up from it so we can better appreciate peace. There is a fascination with war and not peace in the human mind. We are readily aware of peace. But, we do not know war. We do not know crime. So, the artist---possibly having committed certain crimes or gone to war---puts on a moral display for us, to wake us up from the moment of the deed. And thereby, appeasing our curiosity while at the same time telling a moral tale on why not to do it.

Stories are integral for that reason. When they're done right. As, stories can often be the most damaging thing on the psyche if they delve into concepts of bathos. Bathos being graphic sex, gratuitous murder or the elevation of the passions. Or kitsch, which is the indulgence of lustful or aggravating themes. Such things as Pan and Sirynx, if Sirynx did not turn into a knoll. Or Narcissus and Echo, where Echo becomes the true villain. Such things are contrary to the Logos and Nature. 

So I have just revealed the mystery of a story.

Gawain Poet, The. Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Translator Brian Stone. Penguin Classics, 1974. Text.
Ovid. Metamorphoses. Translator David Raeburn. Penguin Classics, 2004. Text.

Order of Longfellow Degrees of Knowledge

The pensive reader will be asked to humbly observe themselves, to find which level they have attained, if any. As, so very few ever attain even the Associate Level.

The Fool - The fool thinks to know truth. Contemplating the world in one's own eyes, and wishing to conform all objects to oneself. The fool wishes to bend reality to their will, and force their view upon the world. They master the art of rhetoric, or they don't. They wish to inflect their will upon others, and thereby create reality for themselves. The Fool is the most hopeless of all the dishonorable, as they have attained knowledge of only themselves, and so wish to conform the world to their own knowledge, as if they were a god. If one thinks they know, one is the Fool.

The Dunce - The Dunce neither knows truth, nor do they contemplate on truth. Most will fall into this category. By neither knowing nor seeking truth, the Dunce believes everything they hear, and does not seek what is outside of themself. They search themself, and follow blindly what others will tell them. The Dunce is an ass pulling the burden of their own stupidity. If one neither seeks nor knows, one is the Dunce.

The Half-wise - The Half-wise knows there is no truth. Knowing there is no truth, they cannot attain to any truth. Believing truth is generated from their own mind, they are an imbecile, and do not seek the truth outside of them, but rather the truth within themself. By being half-wise, and knowing there is no truth, one is The Half-wise.

The Materialist - The Materialist knows there is truth, but only in the physical. They can find no truth beyond what is physical, found in numbers or object. Not to say that they believe truth can only be attained by the senses, but they truly believe truth is limited to the senses, and have no judgment for reasoning to higher principles, such as ethics, the causes for law or language. By knowing only what is physical, one is the Materialist.

The Student - The student is the one willing to learn. It is a dangerous time, but also a necessary time. It is a point where one can either find truth, or abandon it. It is the mean between the way to knowledge. Either one will accept God's Word, and thereby attain to wisdom, or one will deny God's Word, and thereby attain to dishonor. A student is one who is in the Mean. 

Associate - An Associate of the Order of Longfellow has discovered there is wisdom and truth. They don't know it yet, but they have found some aspect of truth, and by knowing there is truth, have attained to the Associate of the Order of Longfellow.

Bachelor - A Bachelor of the Order of Longfellow has found a truth. They know at least one truth, and have developed a knowledge base on that aspect of truth. And knowing a truth, they have attained to the Bachelor of the Order of Longfellow.

Meister - A Meister of the Order of Longfellow has mastered a particular skill. Knowing truth, they have developed that truth to have found it, and have found an objective system of order with regard to that truth. Having mastered a truth, they have attained a Meister of the Order of Longfellow.

Doctor - A Doctor of the Order of Longfellow has knowledge in several fields. Knowing, and being able to connect knowledge from different fields, and finding multiple systems of order where all truths relate; and having mastered multiple disciplines, they have attained a Doctorate of the Order of Longfellow.

Scholar - A Scholar of the Order of Longfellow has the humility of seeking truth. Being able to recognize knowledge, truth and skill wherever it is found. Whether a fool or sage, a Scholar of the Order of Longfellow has discovered truth can be found in all things. One has attained the recognition of Scholar from the Order of Longfellow by attaining the knowledge that there is truth, and having the ability to recognize the truth in all disciplines and men.

Sage - A Sage of the Order of Longfellow has found truth. Being able to know and discern truth through observation of the simple, or recognizing it in the wise. The Sage has achieved wisdom, and begins to see the truth, connecting the truth, finding what God had spoken through the Prophets, Apostles and His Son. The Sage sees truth reflects God's word, and thereby, begins the road to true knowledge. By seeing all truth points to God's Word, one has attained the recognition of a Sage.

Disciple - A Disciple in the Order of Longfellow has knowledge only of Christ, and is able to understand all things through Christ. At the peak of knowledge, comes the relationship with Jesus, and to call Him our Rabbi. One attains a rank of Disciple in the Order of Longfellow if they know Christ, and can, without doubt, affirm all truth leads to Christ.


I will ask all my pensive readers to really consider this, and see if they are reflected in any of these. It is a time to self reflect, and find the Way.

Order of Longfellow Dishonors

The Half-wise - The half-wise knows there is no truth. Knowing there is no truth, he cannot attain to any truth. Believing truth is generated from his own mind, he is an imbecile, and does not seek the truth outside of him, but rather the truth within him. By being half-wise, and knowing there is no truth, one is The Half-wise.

The Materialist - The materialist knows there is truth, but only in the physical. He can find no truth beyond what is physical, found in numbers, or object. Not to say that he believes truth can only be attained by the senses, but he truly believes truth is limited to the senses, and not the sense of reasoning to higher principles, such as ethics, law or language. By knowing only what is physical, one is the Materialist.

The Dunce - A man who neither knows truth, nor does he contemplate. Most will fall into this category. By neither knowing, nor seeking, the Dunce believes everything he hears, and does not seek what is outside of himself. He searches himself, and follows blindly what others will tell him. The Dunce is an ass pulling the burden of his own stupidity. If one neither seeks nor knows, one is the Dunce.

The Fool - A man who thinks he knows truth. He contemplates the world in his own eyes, and wishes to conform all objects to himself. He wishes to bend reality to his will, and force his view upon the world. He masters the art of persuasion, or he doesn't. He wishes to inflect his will upon others, and thereby create reality for himself. The Fool is the most hopeless of all the dishonorable, as he has attained knowledge of himself, and wishes to conform the world to his own knowledge, as if he were a god. If one thinks he knows, one is the Fool.



I will ask all my pensive readers to really consider this, and see if they are reflected in any of these. IF so, it is a time to self reflect, and find the Way.

Order of Longfellow Degrees

Associate - An Associate of the Order of Longfellow has discovered there is wisdom and truth. They don't know it yet, but they have found some aspect of truth, and by knowing there is truth, have attained to the Associate of the Order of Longfellow.

Bachelor - A Bachelor of the Order of Longfellow has found a truth. They know at least one truth, and have developed a knowledge base on that aspect of truth. And knowing a truth, they have attained to the Bachelor of the Order of Longfellow.

Meister - A Meister of the Order of Longfellow has mastered a particular skill. Knowing truth, they have developed that truth to have found it, and have found an objective system of order with regard to that truth. Having mastered a truth, they have attained a Meister of the Order of Longfellow.

Doctor - A Doctor of the Order of Longfellow has knowledge in several fields. Knowing, and being able to connect knowledge from different fields, and finding multiple systems of order where all truths relate, and having mastered multiple disciplines, they have attained a Doctorate of the Order of Longfellow.

Scholar - A Scholar of the Order of Longfellow has the humility of seeking truth. Being able to recognize knowledge, truth and skill wherever it is found. Whether a fool or sage, a Scholar of the Order of Longfellow has discovered truth in all things. One has attained the recognition of Scholar from the Order of Longfellow by attaining the knowledge that there is truth, and has the ability to recognize the truth in all disciplines.

Sage - A Sage of the Order of Longfellow has found truth. Being able to know and discern truth through observation of the simple, or recognizing it in the wise. The Sage has achieved wisdom, and begins to see the truth, connecting the truth to what God had spoken through the Prophets, Apostles and His Son. The Sage sees truth reflects God's word, and thereby, begins the road to true knowledge. By seeing all truth points to God's Word, one has attained the recognition of a Sage.

Disciple - A Disciple in the Order of Longfellow has knowledge only of Christ, and is able to understand all things through Christ. At the peak of knowledge, comes the relationship with Jesus, and to allow Him to be our Rabbi. One attains a rank of Disciple in the Order of Longfellow if they know Christ, and can, without doubt, affirm all truth leads to Christ.



The pensive reader will be asked to humbly observe themselves, to find which level they have attained, if any. As, so very few ever attain even the Associate Level.

Some of the Evidence for Jesus

Why would Abraham want to sacrifice Isaac, if not a picture that God would provide a sacrificial lamb?

Why would Leviticus condone human sacrifice in Leviticus 27:29, when such sacrifice is unlawful? Except in the context that it meant One Devoted to God? That Being Immanuel?

Why would Nehemiah tell the people to eat fat? From what I understand that's unlawful. Unless, it was to establish that the Jews were in waiting for a New Covenant?

Why would Abraham be told, "Your Seed shall bless all nations?" Who is that Seed? Jacob didn't bless all nations. Rather, it seems quite clear that by Jacob, all the nations of the world were condemned to die.

Why wouldn't "Almah" or "Maid" mean "Virgin"? Don't some words have two meanings? And if they do, wouldn't it make sense that a Virgin give birth to the promised Hier, whose coming would destroy Assyria? Rather than a harlot? I've heard it said that the woman was a harlot, but then that's only if you don't interpret the word "Almah" as "Virgin".

What is the "Newly Created Thing" referred to twice in Isaiah? Why does it tell you to forget the old?

Who's Soul is to be made an offering for our sins? 

Who was "pierced for our transgressions?"

Why must we kiss the Pure, the One Begotten by God? My Bible says "Son", but you translate "Bar" as "Pure". So, obviously it makes more sense that the word be translated as "Son". Because a "Son" is Begotten.

Why are there two everlasting covenants? Why did Jeremiah proclaim a new covenant?

Why did Ezekiel say "Arise" to dry bones? If there is not a resurrection?

Why did Zechariah name Jesus as the Messiah twice? As, Uzziah tried to reign as both priest and king, and was stricken with Leprosy. Why is "Joshua" in this instance, allowed to reign as both priest and king?

Why did Job want a mediator between him and God?


Why did Xerxes receive a dream that sounds like God's voice in Herodotus?

Why did the conquering of the Aztecs look exactly like the Prophetic campaign of Joshua? Why did at the same miracles occur? Five hundred Conquistadors would defeat armies upward of five to one hundred thousand without any aid. Plagues descended which did not touch the Conquistadors or most of their armies?

If the Aztec used inferior weapons, and that's why they were severely beaten, why did La Triste Noche happen? 

Why, in 1561 in Nuremberg, did two crosses do battle over the eye of the sun, and St. Paul's Cathedral was struck with lightning?

Why is there a picture of the Dragon from Revelation on a Hindu Temple, and why does it look like an alien?

How did Milton predict Atomic Bombs and the movement of the Universe, and also predict Postmodernism?

Why does Orion have a sling and look like David? 

Why is there a giant figure---looks like a five year old's drawing---that raises up on the horizon in the direction of Orion's sling? 

Why is there a triangle in the summer, called the Summer Triangle, and there's an arrow at the one point of the triangle, and it points to a cross at the other?  

Why is the North Star very dim, when it used to be taught that it was one of the brightest in the Nighttime sky?


Why does Cassiopeia look like a woman giving birth?

Why is there only infinity existing in vacuum?

Why does math work, and prove itself in the real world, even out to the most obscure equations?

Why are we able to communicate?

Why do all of the greatest sages in history come to ideas similar to that of the Bible's?

Why do poets like Virgil and Lucretius find truths, logically prove them, and those truths are what the Bible had said? 

Why is faith called the "Evidence of things unseen, and the substance of things hoped for."? 

Why did the Hundred Years War and Black Plague follow a time period where a Pope was martyred, and Homosexuality was normal?

Why is Christ's law in Matthew 5 - 8 so self evident, if He is not God Come in the Flesh?

Why is Isaiah 53 in the Dead Sea Scrolls? 

Why doesn't the Nebuchadnezzar Chronicles prove Judah was a principality prior to Babylonian Captivity? 

Why does the Tel Dan Stele give verbatim the most obscure Biblical detail, and it gets it right? 

How does a feather evolve over even a trillion years?

Can a frog turn into a toad, unless God made it so?

Why did the Hammurabi's code get established right where the Biblical Genealogies date Abraham?
  
Why did Hebrews worshipped God's Son before Christ?

Why were El and El's Son worshipped in Mesopotamia at the time of Hammurabi's Code?

Why does Moses line up with the cult of Aten in the Biblical Geneologies?

If God were real, why wouldn't He reveal Himself?

Why are there miraculous events described in Roman and Greek Historians which directly correspond to places where God would work? Such as Hannibal's invasion of Rome the sun blackened and the shields sweat blood, or the Sacrifice of virgins turning rivers to blood and made a moondog? Are we to believe that didn't happen?

Why did George Floyd's monument get destroyed by lightning?

Why does the complete History as given by Ancient Astronaut Theorists sound like it was describing demons instead of aliens?

Why are there so many myths and stories that resemble one another?

Why does every civilization, on every continent, have a mythology about a global flood?'

If all things are vibrations, and Word is a vibration of air, and Jesus is the Word Who holds all things together,---what, exactly, can science do except prove that Jesus is the Word?

Why would aliens demand human sacrifice, if they were not demons instead?

Who would ultimately hold mankind responsible for all the suffering it created, if God did not exist?

How could a man ever be forgiven without Christ? If sin must be punished, how else could a man escape Judgment unless that punishment were placed on Immanuel?

Will you make the decision to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and savior, and will you repent of ALL sin.

The Snake-Ape

Audiences love it.
Is it an ape? Is it a snake?
No one knows.
Is it a metaphor about man?
Or, is it simply a fiction without a metaphor?

The flying snake-monkey becomes a god.
It despises man---
Is it truly conscious of its own potential?

Had I written the story,
The snake-ape would be a metaphor
About man's progression.
How science made him into a "God".
And subsequently the vanity of it;
The pretension---as any thing which calls itself a god
Is pretentious, and must be pretentious.
The snake-ape would first start in the wilderness,
And evolve into a creature which could fashion instruments
That give it flight; power over fire.
Instead, the snake-ape becomes wiser than man?
It becomes a metaphor about ancient traditions
Needing to be accepted by man
So they are not consumed with science?

I'm sorry, but I don't worship a snake-ape.
Those who do, had eaten the hearts of mankind.
So, one puts forth an utterly foul interpretation for god
And preaches to me how we need it?
Rather, I'd want men to be atheists
So they could at least discover that there is good
With the precise measurements of scientific instruments.
Then, at least, we could better compare what we've discovered
And see it matches up with one particular God
Of a people so small, so minute, yet given the mysteries of the moral universe.

For, men will ultimately discover there is need for law;
They might even go so far as to purge all unlawfulness by pogrom.
Yet, it's Christ and His mercy. That is what man need attain
So he can be truly happy.

Logos

There is an order to the universe.
We see it in axioms of algebra.
We see it in Moral Philosophy.
We see the logic of all algebra
Predicts real world objects and physics.
We see in the Object of ideas
That they can be perfectly understood.
We see Christ's Law does create happier
And freer States, where all humans flourish.

Dear, Dr. Peterson

Dear,
Dr. Peterson

Yes, belief in God in very difficult. Christ said, "If you had even a grain of faith the size of this mustard seed, you could make the mountain move." Who has ever had even a grain of faith?

It is because we don't, that is why we need Jesus. Even if I've healed the blind, the deaf, the demon possessed, the lame, the sick, the hungry.; even if I've prophesied the world's end, and knew without a doubt. Still, that little tiny grain of faith is nearly impossible to obtain. Because men are not perfect.

Christ did not come to the world as a teacher of ethics. There were many teachers before Him. There was the Old Testament. There were many people---though scattered abroad to the four corners of the universe---there was some grasp of God's word in every culture that ever existed. Christ did not come to teach us morals. He came to redeem us from the penalty of not obeying them.

By Christ's moral purity, we know Him to be God Come in the Flesh. Yet, even we doubt---all Christians---when faced with certain suppositions. What makes me doubt, is of course, the concepts of science fiction. Yet, I have to retain my faith in spite of it, for there is one truth. I am not perfect. I need Christ as a crutch to help me in this world, and I need him as a purifier to get to the next.

For, if I by my own deeds thought I could attain to eternal life---as you noted---there would be no possibility of me attaining that life. For, without Christ---since His law is self evident and written on our heart---we would have no hope of ever attaining to eternal life, or fellowship with the Father.

For, every sage in history has attained to similar moral understanding, with many follies. Yet, Christ died and raised to redeem us from our folly. For without Him we should be without hope because of the great separation of our sin. Satan had tried to hinder this, yet I prevailed.