On Faith and Math

[There's enough evidence for the Bible to know it's true.] You know, in Calculus, you have enough information to find the answer. If you needed all of it, you'd just keep adding up the sums forever. Sometimes, you have to see the pattern, and [divide] to the right answer. 

{}Numbers are not abstractions. They're measurements. And the reason Calculus works, is that the measurements in an infinite series, increase, and it gets calculated out to infinity in what's called a limit. But, you only need one or two ratios to get to the answer, not the entire infinite sum. 

Same thing with this, I don't need all the evidence to know the Bible's true. Only enough to complete the pattern. 

To get a good idea of it, look at [an infinite sum.] It's just seeing the pattern, you can jump the the conclusion, without all of [the ratios] being used. 

And calculus basically takes that same idea, and uses it with trigonometry and formulas which are comprised of different curves through what's called a derivative, to basically do the same thing, and calculate a curve, or the area underneath it. 

But generally, a lot of things in life have to be a leap of faith. You can't scratch at all the data, you have to make an assumption, even though it is 100% true. 

[Two] looks like a lot of things. {}

I mean, I'm not going to go over number theory{} [it] should have [been] learned {} in third grade. {}[D]oes the word "Dandelion" exist? You know? Or "Atom"[?] That's just semantics. And really a rabbit hole for navel gazers. The fact is, there's a thing, we talk about it, and that's how most things work in the real world. 

{}I'm making an analogy between calculus and evidence for the Bible. [It's] asked [of] me, "Do you know all the evidence for the Bible?" I sa[y], "No, but you don't have to, because like in calculus, you can make a leap to the conclusion, with limited information." Then [it's] retorted, "Math is an abstraction." [Then I say] it's not. And then [it's] said, "Show me two." 

You see, [this is] mining down to the very basics of ontology. [It's] asking a question irrelevant to the point, of what is a number, when I simply said, you can reason to higher things, with limited knowledge. So, likewise, with numbers, we know what they are. And in calculus, there's a number that a curve relates to. And we calculate that number with limited information. And that curve measures things, and the area underneath it can be used to understand things. Imagine that. 

So, the archeology I've found, though not all of it, likewise, shows a pattern of the Bible being true. Like, in calculus, there's a pattern with limited information that shows you the exact measurement of the curve or the area underneath it. 




Okay, you need me to explain number theory. That's alright. 

So, numbers are a ratio. They relate to things that way, and can be described in geometric figures. And in geometric figures, what is similar, can be augmented or diminished, to create similar number. This works in sets--like two apples---or in side lengths--like in a square side length of two, or area of two, which will have side lengths of square root of two---or in physical energy and waves, like in quanta or heat distribution, it will relate through rate of change, which draws back to the calculus I was talking about. So, that's what number is. Not an abstraction, but a measurement of a countable object. 

In logic, numbers follow certain systems, through operations like division, multiplication, square roots, exponents, subtraction and addition. And these can be built on one another, through a variety of ways, to build logic which can describe physical space and time. And the number relates to the ontology of the objects we measure, and the operations on the epistemological conclusions, which can be used to draw comparisons between similar objects and reach new conclusions. Due to equalities.

What I'm doing, is making an analogy between Calculus and the Evidence of the Bible. You said, "Do you have all the evidence." Well, I took an analogy of Calculus, and the logic used in Calculus, which is a prediction of a pattern, to get us to a number that relates to a curve. And I related it to the Bible, by saying I've seen enough evidence for the Bible, to conclude that it's true. Therefore, God exists. In evidence of archeology, philosophy, and textually. 


A thing is either true or false. Logic moves from one truth, to an unknown truth. 

I start with the evidence I've seen of the Bible being true, and moved to conclude that the Bible was true, therefore it was a witness of God. Since the evidence was true, it must follow that God is too. 

You argue semantics too much. Whether a ratio is an abstraction or not, it does nothing for the analogy I made, which you ignored completely. 

You asked me, "Do you have all the evidence?" I said, like in calculus, you can have limited information, and reach the right conclusion. Which you said, "Prove to me the number two." And then said, "Number is an abstraction." Number is not an abstraction. Even in ratios, there's a certain law which the numbers follow, which is described by the ratio. That law, is the foundation of reason. Not the numbers, but what the numbers represent. Likewise, the Bible has true evidence, corroborating it as a chain of witnesses, which is why I believe in it. 

[So t]he number two is true, where the equality makes it true. So, to answer your question, you need a context for it to be either true or false. And that's how logic works. And that is not an abstraction. 

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